Re: on expanding the TSC

Silas Davis

Supportive of boosting tsc membership. 21 seems like reasonable number for lack of a better way to set that number.

On the topic of community representation, there is a way of providing this that most countries use, which is to have some notion of constituencies. The obvious way of defining constuencies being by project.This is somewhat at the expense of proportional representation. It also introduces an issue of constituency boundaries. It doesn't seem quite right that Burrow would have equal representation to Fabric (of course and the EU does work this way). You could have aggregate constituencies combining certain projects and working groups and insure they elect a TSC representative.

Also support some kind of penalty/incentive to show up despite my own, ahem, timekeeping malfunctions. Something reasonably forgiving like Arnaud suggests. In the past I have intended to try to show up while on holiday, been unable to, and not excused myself. I probably should have so mea culpa. An informal guide for new TSC members with some notes on culture and history (outside the charter stuff) might be useful particular if we enlarge and welcome more new members


On Fri, 9 Aug 2019, 01:04 Christopher Ferris, <chrisfer@...> wrote:
yes, we had similar practice in W3C WGs I chaired, though we also had chair discretion to forgive absences due to travel or vacation.


Christopher Ferris
IBM Fellow, CTO Open Technology
IBM Digital Business Group, Open Technologies
email: chrisfer@...
twitter: @christo4ferris

On Aug 8, 2019, at 7:18 PM, Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@...> wrote:

I support this idea. My only concern with growing the TSC would be the risk of not reaching quorum but if we mitigate this risk with an appropriate measure I think we can only gain from the expansion.
For what it's worth, OASIS has to that end a notion of Voting Rights that you lose after missing 2 meetings and gain back after attending 2 meetings that is easy to implement and works well in my experience:
Arnaud  Le Hors - Senior Technical Staff Member, Blockchain & Web Open Technologies - IBM

From:        "Christopher Ferris" <chrisfer@...>
To:        tsc@...
Date:        08/08/2019 02:53 PM
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] [Hyperledger TSC] on expanding the TSC
Sent by:        tsc@...

On today’s TSC call, I noted that when we established Hyperledger, we had 11 Premier members and chose the number of TSC members as a derivative of that. We now have 18 Premier members and a board that has 21 members. We have grown from one to now twelve projects and we have 3 proposed projects in the pipeline. We also have a growing number of WGs that may also be underrepresented. Yet, we have not grown the TSC beyond the original 11. This means that the TSC may not adequately represent the full breadth of our community.

We talked about the prospect of expanding the TSC to enable greater diversity of projects and WGs, as well as of expertise, etc.

Brian noted that CNCF TOB has an elected tier and a provision in their charter that the elected members may also choose a number of individuals from within the community  to serve as well. This might be a good model to emulate.

Any change in the number of TSC members will, of necessity, require a Hyperledger charter revision requiring a 2/3 vote of the board.

I’d like this email to serve as a continuation of today’s discussion hopefully leading to a formal proposal to a charter revision.

I’ll start by suggesting that we find a way of growing the TSC beginning this year, but after the scheduled TSC election, by at least six members. As was also expressed by Mic, we probably also should keep the size manageable, so maybe no more than 21 total.

Ry and Arnaud also suggested maybe adopting a quorum rule that penalized absentee members by removing them from quorum calculation and suspending voting privs following repeated unexcused absences as a device to encourage participation and diminish potential that we not achieve quorum (this seems not to have been a problem excepting in the summer months, but we might consider something as a prophylactic measure.



Christopher Ferris
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IBM Digital Business Group, Open Technologies
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